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Barrie
Federal Election - 2007



Constituency Profile

Candidates:
TBA

Incumbent:
Patrick Brown

2006 Result:
Patrick Brown
23999
Aileen Carroll **
22456
Peter Bursztyn
6978
Erich Jacoby-Hawkins
3875

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04 Prediction/00 Result




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08 04 29 R.O.
209.91.149.39
Well what a surprise Stephane Dion in Barrie with Aileen Carroll but wait where is the new liberal candidate is he standing somewhere in the background?
The way I look at it Paul Martin was a better leader than dion and Aileen Carroll a much more well known and high profile candidate than Rick Jones. and they were barely able to hold this seat in 04 and lost it in 06 to Patrick Brown so I think that gives us an idea of the liberals chances here. And it’s not like they have much to be upset with mp over. Few examples is a lot of retail stores in Barrie and the conservatives cut the gst to 5% which is a significant cut. Many are concerned about the health of lake simcoe and the federal environment minister was here to announce clean up funding. Many residents commute to the Toronto area and with the return of the go train they have that option instead of driving there cars.
08 03 19 freecanadian
72.141.53.146
As for Brown being the GO Train that is simply not true. Aileen Carroll secured the funding for the GO and the only thing left to do after the Province signed on was to wait for the City of Barrie to get themselves together. Brown was a member of council that couldn't get the money secured and the deal was only completed after he left council. He had nothing to do with it
08 02 18 R.O.
66.186.79.28
Not sure what to get out of provincial results here, but a few things come to mind. First off is since Aillen Carroll was elected that means she isn’t going to run federally again and liberals have had to find a new candidate for this riding. Second Joe Tascona’s re-election campaign was ruined by one issue faith based funding , the riding was largely against the idea and he tried to explain that he was too near the end of campaign but it didn’t seem to matter by then. I really think that issue was what hurt the pc’s here and why he didn’t get re-elected. The federal race here will be a lot different as different candidates will be running and much different issues. Some other differences is that Patrick Brown is more experienced at running just in barrie city limits, younger and being in government helps here as well. Also during his time as mp he has helped bring the Go train to Barrie as part of federal/municipal/provincial partnership and that was something that they have been trying to do in Barrie for years since the service was canceled.
07 10 30 Dr Bear & Prof Ape
70.51.130.75
So who do the Liberals have as a candidate? Is it anyone of the caliber of Aileen Carroll? If not, then Brown is safe. True Patrick Brown's stint as MP has been less than stellar (according to some). True that demographic shifts are going to favour the Liberals (in time). However the current poll numbers show little will change in Ontario from '06 and quite frankly it was Aileen that made it competitive. We think this is going to be a rather drab race with Brown winning based on the party platform.
07 10 19 freecanadian
99.239.88.74
The wild card(s) in this race are the NDP and the Greens. We saw provincially how Conservative voters either sat on their hands or cast a vote for the Greens and that was part of the equation that gave us Aileen Carroll as our new MPP. Last time around federally, the NDP support was the reason for Brown's win. This time he will face the same problem, only this time from the Green Party. I believe this riding should be placed into the TCTC category. Conservatives saw Uncle Joe for what he was. With Junior Brown we have learned the rotten apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
07 10 13 Chris
99.238.195.20
I would like nothing more than to see Patrick Brown tossed out of office right after his recently deposed Uncle Joe. The problem is, the Liberals' answer to Brown is a guy who spent the first half of his career re-writing the City of Barrie's Zoning By-Law to encourage urban sprawl, and is now spending the second half of his career helping developers stuff farmland and wetlands with lego-block housing. He also has zero personality and no common touch as anyone who has seen him in action at City Hall would attest to. This riding was there for the taking by the Liberals, and then they promptly threw it away by nominating this guy as their candidate. This riding will never elect an NDP candidate, so it comes down to a vote between a young, inexperienced and ineffective lawyer, and a bland land-developer apologist (aka ‘Planner’) who's been lining his pockets with City Taxpayer money. Unfortunately, I think voters will choose Brown as the lesser of these two evils.
07 05 27 A.S.
74.99.222.209
While the gravity's yet to settle in fully, Barrie can probably be deemed Simcoe County's most vulnerable(esque) Tory seat now--not because of Patrick Brown's demerits, but on a technicality: with population growth and redistribution, it's now entirely an ‘urban core’ seat, sans any rural/exurban fringe. Though that might be more of a long-term prognosis; it isn't like Barrie's gonna become London or Kitchener tomorrow. Besides, the new-wave suburban SUV supersprawl that comprises much of said urbanity is exactly the solar plexus Harper/Flaherty's budgetary acrobatics are aiming for--after all, to put it cynically, it's as contemporary-Calgarian as Ontario gets...
07 04 18 Steve L.
128.189.232.129
i'm also in favor of putting this one in the too-close pile. Patrick Brown hasn't done anything to impress me or indicate that he might become an impressive MP in subsequent governments. and essentially, he didn't win by too great a vote margin. the Liberals should have a better shot at this riding than, say, Essex.
07 04 13 Kevin
74.115.22.216
I think the Barrie liberal association really needs to rexamine itself because as of right now they don't seem to be a very effective group. Patrick Brown will campaign in this election using any means possible and end up winning, unless he somehow completely angers half of Barrie citizens.
07 04 08 freecanadian
74.115.33.226
I think Mr. Brown might be surprised about his short stay in Ottawa. Ineffective and invisible, his days of finally having a full time job are numbered. As for Rick Jones profession being a liability? Isn't Brown a lawyer. Where do they rate on the popularity scale?
07 03 30 Dr Bear & Prof Ape
74.12.178.56
A good Liberal run may swing this back their way. However it was more likely Aileen who kept this for them in 2004 than the party itself. With CPC fortunes up in non-metropolitan cities in Ontario and with the incumbency, we can't see this falling to the Grits unless something big comes up during the election.
07 03 24 M. Lunn
74.99.130.109
I wouldn't call this one yet. This is an urban riding and more and more people are commuting to Toronto now so a lot will depend on the national campaign. I suspect based on last time's results, this will go to whichever party forms government next time around.
07 03 23 bloggerbill
74.108.212.40
Brown should win this one in a landslide. Liberal aren't not running Carroll again, she is going after Patty's Uncle Joe provincially. It will be a no name for the liberals. I hear it's a local lobbyist/developer, everyone love them, name Rick James. Sounds like a super freak to me. Brown by at least 5000 votes. This is Harper country now.



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