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Federal Election - 2004 - élection générale

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Candidates/candidats:
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N.D.P./N.P.D.:
Wayne Gates
Green Party/Parti Vert:
Ted Mousseau
Conservatives/Conservateurs:
Rob Nicholson
Liberal Party/Parti libéral:
Victor Pietrangelo

Population 2001
populations
120,797
Number of electors 2000
Nombre d'électeurs
84441

Incumbents/Les députés:
Erie-Lincoln (21.3%)
John Maloney
Niagara Falls (78.7%)
Gary Pillitteri

2000 Result/Résultats:
Redistributed
21,287 45.82%
14,303 30.78%
7,446 16.03%
2,700 5.81%
OTHERS
726 1.56%

Erie-Lincoln
(52/197 polls, 17967/66231 voters)
2000 Prediction/Complete Results
4079
2884
592
1536
OTHER
104

Niagara Falls
(183/192 polls, 66474/68649 voters)
2000 Prediction/Complete Results
17208
11419
2108
5910
OTHER
622



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13/06/04 just a guy
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Nicholson or Gtaes, take your pick. The Liberals are toast in Niagara Falls, campaign office always closed, no volunteers and very few signs, almost all on public property. I thick Nicholson is a safe bet at this point given the strength of the NDP - by far the best dipper cmapign in Niagara.
10/06/04 Border Guard
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As Crescent Park goes in Fort Erie, so goes Fort Erie. Nicholson signs outnumber Pieterangelo and Gates signs put together in the Park. Pieterangelo also really embarassed himself at the Fort Erie debate by making wild and desperate claims about Harper's appetite for war. Nobody believes him and, in fact, there were a lot of chuckles in the audience over it.
If what I hear about how Nicholson is doing in niagara Falls is true and given Niagara on the Lake is a guaranteed Conservative town, Nicholson going back to Ottawa.
09/06/04 buddy
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Pietrangelo drew laughter from the crowd by suggesting that Paul Martin or the Liberals had NEVER broken a promise. He seemed stiff and aloof and for a teacher, he doesn't have a very good command of the english language.I overheard two women at the debate in fort erie (both sporting Pietrangelo buttons) complaining that their candidate about how he handled the abortion question (he is pro-life). This kind of stuff only opens up political space fro the NDP.
As for the other candidates, Nicholson was by far and away the most polished participant. Although he carries lots of baggage, I wouldn't be embaraased to call him my MP. Gates was your typical NDP candidate, although he does seem to genuinely care about the issues and his community. His party has the most signs up on my street (The NDP has more of a presence than I can ever remember). The Green candidate was kind of a flake and kept referring to himself as a "conservative".
The Liberal campaign seems to have run out of steam, while the NDP campaign grows steadily. The Conservatives have increased their visibility significantly over the course of the last few days and I would say that the sign war is now pretty even between COnservative and NDP. The Liberals are polluting public property but very few people have Liberal signs on their lawns.
05/06/04 troll and midget
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Niagara Falls is shaping up into a two horse race between the Conservatives and the NDP. Here's why:
1. Kim Craitor's supporters are drifting into the NDP camp on the heels of his appearance at the Gates' campaign kick off.
2. An "anyone but Victor" campaign has been unofficially launched by a multi-partisan municipal citizens group who have been criticizing Pietrangelo for years.
3. The revelation that Victor once contributed financially to the Mike Harris Tories has alienated many voters
4. Victor's municipal "experience" seems to be more of a detriment than a boost (he barely survived the last municipal election, finishing 7th.. a terrible result for a ten year incumbent) Rob on the other hand, was easily re-elected.
5. There is a definite swing away from the Liberals.
6. Victor has been terrible in the all-candidates debates, while the other two have done quite well.
The NDP, despite its impressive campaign has too much ground to make up. All this points to a Conservative victory on June 28... but I wouldn't be surprised to see the NDP finish 2nd.
01/06/04 Babs Tapolckai
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This is going to be an interesting riding come election night. The sign war is in full bloom and in Fort Erie there are a heck of a lot more NDP signs than usual. Nicholson signs are doing well but not as well as Hudak did(Tim owns this riding). I see this riding going the way of the election...a small conservative victory.
28/05/04 prodigal
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Best expectation is for 20% max. to go to Wayne Gates. If a few Liberal sympathizers move to the left because they won't support Pietroangelo ( a Tory in Liberal clothing! ) Wayne might even hit 25%.
Liberal loss is Tory gain, and Nicholson (well respected, but as boring as a stone) slides in for four years of nothingness as a Tory in a weak Liberal majority government!
27/05/04 Nick
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The NDP will never take Niagara Falls thanks to Niagara-on-the-Lake, Fort Erie and the areas north of Morrison Ave, west of the QEW and south of Lundy's Lane. They may increase their percentage up to the 10-12% mark, and that increase is only going to hurt Liberals and not the Conservatives. The sign war is heating up, yes, but here in the north end of the city Rob Nicholson signs are outnumbering Liberal and NDP signs 10:1. I wouldn't comment on the sign war just yet, as right now it is just a matter of where the volunteers have started their work. My opinion still stands, Niagara Falls and Niagara West are the two best chances of Conservative pickups this side of Lake Ontario.
26/05/04 A.S.
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Give Rob Nicholson marks for diligence and a Buster Keatonish way of brushing off his 1993 electoral war wounds; he, alone, kept the PC brand competitive in the Reform/Alliance-friendly Niagara Peninsula--and now, what goes around comes around. Coming from the PC camp also helps in a town that still remembers Stockwell Day going *up* the Falls in a barrel. Recent Liberal electoral sluggishness is a little odd in Judy Lamarsh's old constituency; and as is so often the case, the NDP (with a traditional above-average voting record here, and Kormos next door) is the wild card. For all we know, we might see a Liberal/NDP split comparable to 1993's Tory/Reform split? Strange things can happen...
25/05/04 just some dude without any cabbage
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I know it's early, but several things point to an NDP breakthrough in Niagara Falls.
1. According to the Niagara Falls Review, Liberal MPP Kim Craitor attended the Wayne Gates NDP campaign launch, much to the chagrin of Pietrangelo, who sparred with Craitor for years on Niagara Falls city council.
2. NDP lawn signs (on private property) outnumber PC and Liberal signs at least 3-1 and by a 5-1 margin in the city's south end.
3. The talk around town is that Pietrangelo is a former conservative (he apparently donated to the Harris Tories) This new revalation has angered many traditional Liberal supporters who couldn't possibly vote for Nicholson.
23/05/04 Buddy
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Liberal infighting will spell disaster for Victor Pietrangelo's electoral chances. The Niagara Falls Liberal riding association is made up 100% of Jim Diodati supporters (Diodati went on to lose the nomination to Pietrangelo). The Liberal executive and Pietrangelo's campaign team are butting heads over money and everything else. A significant number of bitter Liberals have decided to help NDP candidate Wayne Gates and Tory Rob Nicholson instead. The Liberals aren't likely to lose governemnt, but they are likely to lose Niagara Falls.
07/05/04 crrector
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Rob Nicholson was never a Mulroney cabinet minister, but rather served briefly in Kim Campbell's short-lived cabinet. Anyway, the NDP is running its strongest candidate in years, Wayne Gates, who should steal just enough away from Pietrangelo to secure one of a handful of Conservative pickups in Ontario.
28/04/04 B. Stewart
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The voters of Niagara Falls have a choice between the lesser known Liberal candidate and Robert Nicholson. Nicholson was a Mulroney P.C. Cabinet Minister back in the 1980's and only lost his seat because of a divided right (split the vote in '93, '97 and 2000). It's pretty obvious who is more likely to win here.
09/04/04 Nick
Email: doodle@cogeco.ca
Niagara-on-the-Lake is stanch Tory territory, and Fort Erie is staunch Liberal territory. They cancel each other out. Having said that, let's focus on where it all lies... the city of Niagara Falls itself. Had Diodanti won the Liberal nomination, it would have been a massive Liberal win and the Tory's and NDP may as well just closed up shop. However, he didn't win the nomination, and this makes things MUCH more interesting. Heck, I'm even inclined to say the Liberals shot themselves in the foot by not selecting him to replace Pillitari. Nicholson was (as far as I remember) the only Niagara MP to ever serve in cabinet and is very well respected. Niagara Falls is also a vote splitting situation. The only thing I could see preventing the Tory's from winning this riding is the "Progressive Canadians" effect and a number of former-Progressive Conservatives in Niagara Falls wanting nothing at all to do with the new Conservatives. Still, the membership got a former Tory MP as their candidate, so this'll be interesting to watch on election night. I think the Tory's will edge out the Liberals on the Nicholson factor alone.
25/03/04 pundit
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Amazingly, Victor Pietrangelo won the Liberal nod over Jim Diodati. Pietrangelo, who finished 7th place in the latest race for Niagara Falls city council is underwhelming to say the least. Welcome back Mr. Nicholson!
16/03/04
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Former Tory cabinebt minister Rob Micholson is running for the Tories against rookie Niagara Falls city councillor Jim Diodati.
The riding is one that the COnservatives are definitely looking at picking up, but don't be fooled by past results. Incumbent Gary Pilliteri was extremely weak and invisible and his results showed that. Diodati is a much better candidate, but if the Libs drop below 35%, the riding will go Tory with Nicholson who in the past has always outperformed his party.


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